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[Transcript] Episode 2


Animal communication is an emerging area of research, and we just so happen to have front row seats to it! We are both involved with some fascinating research that's happening at the University of Saskatchewan's School of Environment and Sustainability (in Canada) that's exploring the phenomenon of "intuitive interspecies communication." On May 24th, 25th and 26th, 2022, there is a virtual event taking place that you are all invited to, called the International Multispecies Methods Research Symposium. The event aims to:

  • Embark on a scholarly exploration and deeper understanding of intuitive interspecies communication (IIC) as practiced by animal communicators (an emerging multispecies method);

  • Catalyze novel partnerships and grow an international network of IIC research;

  • Develop new research questions, directions, teams, discussion groups across diverse areas of inquiry and disciplines.

This event will be of interest to those who are seeking to more deeply understand animals and are interested in learning more about intuitive interspecies communication and emerging research in this area. The event takes place over the course of 3 days at different timings (more info and schedule available on the website), and will include keynote presentations, sample animal communication consults, group discussions with attendees on various topics, and networking opportunities with researchers, animal communicators and symposium participants. Some very well-respected and world-renowned individuals will be presenting at the event, including:

  • Penelope Smith

  • Cara Gubbins

  • Rosalyn Berne

  • Maia Kincaid

  • Wynter Worsthorne

Learn more about the event HERE. Ticket can be purchased HERE. -- Podcast website: www.animalsanduspodcast.com Barbara's website: www.barbarashor.com Instagram: instagram.com/animalsanduspodcast Facebook: facebook.com/animalsanduspodcast Twitter: twitter.com/animals_and_us



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hi there and welcome


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to the table and transform our


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relationship with the natural world and


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and retired veterinarian


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and souls of animals


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who the animals truly are at their core


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this podcast is for anyone who loves


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animals and nature and has an interest


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in their own personal and spiritual


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development


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will bring you powerful conversations


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with fascinating people about animal and


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nature sentience consciousness and


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thank you so much for joining us on this


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journey of love


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understanding


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and care


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for the fellow beings who share our


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beautiful mother earth with us


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hello everyone i hope you're doing well


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wherever you are


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and whenever you're listening to this


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episode on today's show barbara and i


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are going to be talking to you about


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something that's very near and dear to


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our hearts there's an event coming up


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that we wanted to tell you all about and


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we wanted to invite you to


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so just so you know today is may 14 2022


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and this event that we'll be telling you


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about is taking place in a couple of


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weeks on may 24th 25th and 26th of 2022


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it's happening online and tickets are on


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sale until may 20th so if you're


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listening to this episode anytime soon


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and are interested in checking it out


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you have a little bit more time to


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register and sign up to attend


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so without further ado


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let me tell you a little bit more


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so a couple years ago i came across the


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research of a scholar here in canada at


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the university of saskatchewan


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at their school of environment and


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sustainability


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called dr mj barrett


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she has been working for many years on


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research that is aiming to deepen the


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animal human understanding and


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relationships through intuitive


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inter-species communication


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and you might hear that term come up


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later in this episode and if you're also


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interested in the event you'll see this


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term come up for sure


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intuitive interspecies communication or


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iic for short is basically another way


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of saying animal communication but it's


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a little bit more broader because it's


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incorporating all species which includes


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all beings in nature as well and her


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research has really focused on


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understanding and applying


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multi-species research methods and what


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that really means is looking at how we


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can collaborate


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and how we can


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involve other species in research


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methods


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and how we can use that knowledge that


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we gain from the research to transform


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our current understandings and


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approaches to how we work on


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sustainability programs and education


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and how we really


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interact with the environment and go


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about


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creating solutions for sustainability


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and really bridging the knowledge


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that exists already


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in many indigenous cultures and and


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through other ways of knowing and bring


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that into


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the world of academia and studying it


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and publishing it and putting it out


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there in a way that other academic


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professionals can


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understand it and then


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further that education even more


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so this event is called the


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international multi-species research


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symposium


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shifting paradigms in human animal


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relations


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and i will actually be hosting it along


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with mj


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which i'm very excited about and


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basically what it is is it's a


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conference all about animal


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communication


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and at this event we'll we'll be


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bringing together scholars animal


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communicators who who practice animal


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communication professionally


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animal care practitioners and


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professionals who work with animals in


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various capacities


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and also other folks who are just


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interested in this topic or might be


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just starting to learn about it


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and other researchers


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and academics who are interested in


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hearing more about this topic to bring


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all these people together in a place


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where we can create respectful and open


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dialogue


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about the research that has already


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happened about the research that's going


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on right now and to really come together


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to discuss where we can go from here


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given that it's a relatively new area of


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dedicated academic study


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we really want this forum to be a place


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where


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we're not proving or disproving that


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inter-species communication exists


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rather we're really looking at this as


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an opportunity for people who are


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interested in this topic to come


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together and engage in thoughtful and


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productive dialogue about intraspecies


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communication and where we can go from


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here


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and one of the other main objectives of


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this event is to


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bring people together who are


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who are all over the world doing


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interesting things in their own


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lives and to really catalyze new


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partnerships and collaborations


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and create an international network of


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interest species com interspecies


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communication research


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bring these people together so they can


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learn what what they're all doing in


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different parts of the world


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uh whether they're doing it in an


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academic capacity in a professional


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capacity or they're just interested in


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this topic


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and start forming those relationships so


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we can really benefit from


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the work that we're all doing


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so it's a place where we're going to be


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developing new research questions


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directions building teams discussion


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groups and bringing together people


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across various diverse areas of inquiry


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and disciplines


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so this event is really going to be of


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interest to those who are seeking to


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more deeply understand animals


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and


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people who really want to be part of the


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discussion


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about where we go next from here in in


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bringing together research and practice


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people who work with animals people who


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you know are policy makers


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conservation practitioners educators


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animal communicators people who share


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their lives with animals so if you have


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companion animals and you're interested


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in


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learning about what animal communication


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is and


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are interested in seeing what the


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research says this is really the place


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to come and check out some of the


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topics that we're going to be talking


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about


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so at the event we're going to have some


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incredible keynotes


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speakers presenters including some very


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well-known and very well-respected names


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in the animal communication world


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i'll just name a few


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penelope smith who is known as a pioneer


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in the field of intraspecies


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communication


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she


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she's an author who has published many


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books including animal talk and when


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animals speak


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cara gubbins who's a global leader in


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animal communication and an


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award-winning author


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winter war thorn and international


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inter-species communicator from south


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africa


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who's involved with the global white


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lion protection trust and so many other


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incredible people who are going to be


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sharing their thoughts about this topic


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with us


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so in addition to these keynotes


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you can also expect to see some


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demonstration sessions so we have


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an actual recording of an animal


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communication consultation and then an


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analysis from a phd student


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about


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you know the academic nuances and


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analysis of the session


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we have papers and presentations that


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have been submitted which include case


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studies research studies


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perspectives from practitioners who are


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working in the field


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and we're also going to have breakout


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sessions and i am so excited about this


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part of it because


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this is where


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attendees can sign up for different


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sessions that are going to be focused on


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different topics


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and


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they're going to be able to come in and


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actually


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engage in discussion and conversation


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with other people and


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if you have your own topic that you're


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interested in having a breakout session


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for you can also


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pitch that as an idea too so


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on day two of the event we're actually


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going to be opening it up to people and


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asking them what they're interested in


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talking about so you know we have


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structure but we are also open to


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new ideas


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and and


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hearing what the audience wants to talk


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about and then creating spaces for those


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interesting discussions to happen


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and so on the topic of breakout sessions


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i wanted to ask barbara to jump in here


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because she's going to be


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facilitating a breakout session and i'm


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going to pass it over to her now so she


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can tell us a little bit more about that


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and barbara maybe you can tell us what


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kind of discussion you're hoping to


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generate in that session


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