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Episode 1

Introducing Ourselves and Why We Created This Podcast, with Barbara & Avantika, your Podcast Hosts


In this first episode, we invite you to get to know us as we embark on an amazing journey into the inner life of animals and nature. Both of us, Avantika and Barbara, are extremely passionate about this topic and we are more than excited to introduce you to the world we care so much about: the world of animals, nature and our beloved Mother Earth.

We will talk about our own personal backgrounds and how we came to know one another and then enter into the creation of this podcast. And we will let you know what's ahead: our future guests, topics we will discuss, and what you might learn from joining us on this podcast.

Our greatest hope is that we will become a community of like-hearted, like-minded souls and together we can change the way human beings perceive all living beings. We are extremely excited to have you join us on this incredible journey. Thank you for your attention, your love and your curiosity.

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Podcast website: www.animalsanduspodcast.com
Barbara's website: www.barbarashor.com
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hi there and welcome

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you're listening to animals and us

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voices of a new paradigm

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[Music]

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my name is ivantika and i'm a researcher

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exploring animal consciousness

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environmental sustainability and

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planetary health

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i want to help bring animal perspectives

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to the table and transform our

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relationship with the natural world and

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i'm barbara i'm an animal communicator

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and retired veterinarian

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my true passion is exploring the hearts

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and souls of animals

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and helping people

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come to a much deeper understanding of

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who the animals truly are at their core

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this podcast is for anyone who loves

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animals and nature and has an interest

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in their own personal and spiritual

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development will bring you powerful

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conversations with fascinating people

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about animal and nature sentience

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consciousness and communication

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thank you so much for joining us on this

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journey of love

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respect

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understanding

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and care

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for the fellow beings who share our

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beautiful mother earth with us

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hello and welcome to animals and us

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voices of a new paradigm this is episode

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number one

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my name is ivantika

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and i'm barbara

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welcome to our show we're happy to have

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you with us yes we truly are so excited

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to have you here today if you've

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stumbled upon our show we hope that

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you're someone who feels a strong

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connection to animals and the

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environment and to nature

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maybe you've always felt very connected

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or maybe something new that you're

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developing and exploring

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perhaps you're someone who works closely

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with animals in some capacity or you're

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someone who just really cares about them

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and has a really deep bond with them

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well wherever you come from and however

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you feel about animals

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we want to welcome you

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and we hope that you'll walk away with

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some food for thought

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maybe with your awareness slightly

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expanded or maybe with just some new

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interests and intriguing ideas that you

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can think about and apply in your own

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life

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barbara and i and many others out there

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really believe that animals have the

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capacity to think to feel

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to have consciousness and to even

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communicate with us and i'm not just

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talking about communicating through body

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language or through sounds that they

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make or through other obvious ways of

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communicating that we all know about

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i'm talking here about

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a very soul-to-soul connection that can

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happen between animals and humans

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through which we can actually

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communicate and exchange information

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so we'll talk more about that later in

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this episode and we'll definitely get

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really deep into that in later episodes

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but what's really important to stress

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here

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is the fact that they are conscious

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beings

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that they have thoughts

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they have emotions they have

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intelligence and when we are able to tap

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into all of that information and

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understand it

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we

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can be absolutely amazed by what we can

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learn about them and from them and so on

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that note i would love to properly

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introduce you to my co-host dr barbara

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uh barbara is a retired veterinarian who

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has worked with animals in many

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different capacities and i really mean

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that she has had so many different roles

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and interesting jobs in the past she's

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traveled a lot and she really has a

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wealth of information

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about animals and she really relates to

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them emotionally

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mentally psychologically and spiritually

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and in fact about 30 years ago she

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realized that she had the incredible

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ability to even communicate with them

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exchange thoughts with them and learn

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from them

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so barbara can you tell us how all this

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happened maybe you can walk us through

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your journey a little bit

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sure thanks avantika

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well like many of us i've always loved

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animals and i graduated with a biology

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degree from university of colorado

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and from there

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i did behavior research or ethology

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which is the study of behavior and

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and wildlife

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i did behavior research with wolves and

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coyotes in indiana of all places

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i spent about a year there

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learning about these animals and falling

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in love with them

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and after that i became a dog trainer

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for a few years

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and that was fascinating too

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but it led me to vet school

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and i became a veterinarian

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i knew that there was more that i wanted

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to do with animals than

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be a trainer or study them so i went to

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that school

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in vet school my passion for wildlife

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continued

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and i did some really interesting things

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during my time in school

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where i took care of raptors or birds of

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prey

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i volunteered with the colorado division

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of wildlife i worked at the denver zoo

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for several years

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and also worked with dogs cats horses

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and birds and everything else

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wow it sounds like you did so much

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during your time in vet school barbara

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and so where did you go after that where

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did life take you after you finished bed

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school

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after i graduated from vet school which

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was colorado state university

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i went into private practice and i

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worked in a few

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private practices which was great

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but then i was accepted into a residency

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program at the university of california

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davis

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and it was quite a wonderful prestigious

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program

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headed by dr murray fowler who was

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considered the father of zoo medicine at

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that time

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and i was the sole resident

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in a large ward where we treated many

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kinds of

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animals the program was called

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residency and not in non-domestic animal

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medicine

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and we treated all kinds of animals from

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from

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birds to snakes to rabbits

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and then we treated larger animals and

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zoo animals we treated we were the

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veterinarians for the sacramento zoo and

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mickey grove zoo in california

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and we treated many animals that had

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been injured wildlife

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as well as domestic

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companion animals

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and it was quite a huge

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huge learning experience

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from there i went to

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the california department of fish and

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game now called department of fish and

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wildlife

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where i did a deer project

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where i had a big truck and i would

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drive the mountain roads of northern

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california

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looking for roadkill deer these are deer

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that had been hit in the road

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and it was a research project to

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determine the condition of the deer

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herds

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you can look at the fat on different

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tissues and determine what kind of

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condition those animals

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were in when they died

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after a couple years of doing this it

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was springtime

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and in the springtime the deer of course

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had their little babies

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and i would be driving the roads and

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find a mother deer with her two babies

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by her side in the road killed in the

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road and

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i just broke into tears

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what i realized many years later is that

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these deer

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spiritually anyway emotionally were my

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teachers

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and they were helping me wake up to my

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own sensitivity my own gentleness

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for so many years going through

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veterinary school and then the residency

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and working with wildlife i had shut my

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emotional self down i had to be this

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tough little

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macho character

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to do what i had to do

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and it was suppressing a really

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important sweet part of myself that i

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wasn't even aware of

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and so

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after that

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things changed for me and it opened me

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up to

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my own emotional healing to my spiritual

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evolution to a whole new world

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and after i came back from

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this residency i spent a year in africa

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working with wildlife in africa and i

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did a

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study with cape buffalo i did a study

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with

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african wild dogs or they're also called

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cape hunting dogs or painted wolves

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and that truly was the best year of my

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life it was just magical

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but i wanted to be kind of normal again

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so i came back to colorado and went into

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a veterinary practice and i worked there

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for a while

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until i decided i had to leave

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so i left

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it's so interesting that you describe

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coming back and

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and kind of what having this desire to

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do something a bit normal that's that's

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interesting so can you tell us a little

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bit more about that like that process of

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coming back into veterinary practice and

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knowing that it just didn't feel right

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for you you know what was

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what were your feelings and emotions at

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that time and help you know

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motivating you to

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leave that practice

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as i said the deer had helped me to find

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my

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sensitivity

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and when i was in veterinary practice

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i could feel the emotions of the animals

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and and the people and and it was taxing

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at times

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at the same time i realized there's so

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much more to the animals than i had been

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taught to believe

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so

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i wanted to find out what that was about

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i wanted to know about the root cause of

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disease

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what really

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makes animals tick what are they

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thinking what are they feeling what is

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underlying cause of some of these things

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that we consider diseases that may just

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be symptomatic of something much deeper

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and so i left veterinary practice and i

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went into holistic or integrative or

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functional now

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veterinary medicine learning about herbs

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and homeopathy and energy medicine and

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all that

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and during that time i went to a meeting

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in hawaii which was the american

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holistic veterinary medical association

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and that meeting really changed the

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trajectory of my life

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wow and i'm sure with your

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years and years of experience even

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before that conference this would have

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just um you know really enhanced your

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understanding of animals and i'm so

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curious to know what happened at that

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conference like how did

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that kind of catapult you into

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animal communication and where did life

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go after that point

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well

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i went to a workshop there

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and there was an animal communicator

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that spoke for about two hours and she

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did a couple

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demonstrations with a bird and a dog and

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i was just totally

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intrigued

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and i thought this is what i want to do

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with my life i want to talk to the

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animals

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and so i read books and i studied with a

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few teachers and all of that but what

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happened is that in those days about 30

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years ago

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people used to teach that animals

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communicated through images

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but that didn't work for me i i'm not

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someone who sees a lot

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so i thought it wasn't happening for me

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but i continued working

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and

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finally i realized that i had already

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been communicating with animals for

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years

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i had swum with dolphins

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and

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i i started talking to them

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telepathically but i didn't realize that

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that was animal communication i didn't

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know there was such a thing for me the

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dolphins were simply my spiritual

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teachers

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and i would sit down

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and write down what i heard it was kind

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of like automatic writing and that's how

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i

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communicated and so i realized that

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that's my way of communicating is

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through my writing

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later i learned how to verbalize what i

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was hearing as well

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and i started working with individuals

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and their companion animals

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helping them with behavior problems or

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health issues especially when their

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animals were dying or about to

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transition

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and i did quite a bit of speaking at

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different venues and i taught workshops

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and then you went on to write a book can

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you tell us more about that

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yes about a dozen years ago or so i

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wrote a book called soul of the wild

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intimate messages from the hearts and

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souls of elephants in wales

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and the elephants in wales became my

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true teachers

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so this book is

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information from those animals but it's

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more than that at least to me it's

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their spiritual teachings and they they

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really did teach me a lot

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but now i am updating that book a new

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version

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and instead of a book about elephants

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and whales i'm making a series of books

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the first will be elephants and then

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whales and and

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other species from there and this is

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material that i had in the first book

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but also

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new material that's come in that that

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i'm quite excited about

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i i can't i can't wait to read that

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barbara i um i read barbara's book soul

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of the wild earlier this year and it was

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so transformative for me because i read

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it and so much of it made sense to me i

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realized that growing up barbara like my

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understanding of elephants and whales

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and for that for that matter most

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animals and living beings was so limited

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and reading your book really made me

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realize that

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our way of understanding things is

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actually

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so limiting and we don't really

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even have a clue about the depth of

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wisdom that they have to share with us

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and the kinds of things that you talked

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about in there were you know things that

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i've gone on to share with other people

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i've read excerpts of your books to

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other people um so i'm i'm really

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excited in our later episodes we'll get

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into your book and

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dive deep into some of the messages that

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the whales and the elephants have for us

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barbara and i could talk for hours about

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what the animals have to share and

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that's really why we started this

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podcast

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right barbara like we can we can we have

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so much to share and so much to dive

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into we just can't wait to get into it

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with you guys we've been talking talking

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talking for well over a year maybe two

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and it's been really fun

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so what about you of antika

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how did you get into all of this

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yeah my journey has been um

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has been really interesting growing up

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i actually had very little exposure to

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animals and nature i lived in a i lived

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a very urban life so i spent most of my

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life in toronto in canada and i spent a

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few years in india when i was younger as

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well and in both places i've lived a

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very urban life

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very kind of far removed from animals

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and from the natural world and we

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actually had no animals in the family

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no family members relatives even friends

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family friends that had even companion

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animals at home so my exposure was

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really limited

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um

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and then

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about two to three years ago

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i randomly heard a podcast

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and this woman was being interviewed

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she explained how she could communicate

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with elephants and she could have

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conversations with elephants

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you know just hearing that story

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something in my mind really shifted

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because i realized well why why is that

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not possible you know that's what went

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through my mind elephants and and other

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animals have shared this planet with us

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um some of them have been around for

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even longer than human beings have been

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so

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if we think that humans have this level

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of consciousness and ability to

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communicate

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why couldn't the animals

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and if someone is telling me that they

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can actually exchange information with

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them then that requires some further

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investigation

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so that you know just hearing that kind

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of threw me into a rabbit hole the more

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i learned and the more that i read about

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it

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my

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awareness expanded

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exponentially that's how it felt and

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life really took a turn after that

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because i felt like i was never the same

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person again it was kind of like i was

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i'd gone past a point of no return so i

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was just suddenly seeing things very

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differently now

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and honestly most of all

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it really made me come alive because

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i all of a sudden had this feeling of

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wonder and fascination

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and and to be honest a lot of respect as

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well for the natural world and yeah that

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was that's a little bit about how i got

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started

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very interesting and

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it seems the elephants brought us

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together

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after all they really did

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but but what got you interested in

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animals in the first place if you came

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from such a background where animals

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weren't even part of your life

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experience

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yeah you know i was actually scared of

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dogs for most of my life um

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i had a traumatic experience once when i

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was a kid

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in india there was a wild pack of dogs

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that you know i was just in the wrong

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place at the wrong time i got chased by

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them and it was so frightening as a

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child and

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that kind of completely

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put me in this bubble and really made me

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fear

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um animals and fear dogs and then

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everything changed when i met my husband

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and he told me really early on when we

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were dating that

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i'm an avid animal lover and we are

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going to have multiple dogs one day and

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that's non-negotiable

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and i i was open to it i was like okay i

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have a long way to go because i have no

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understanding

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i'm scared i'm gonna need a lot of

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support getting there but he was patient

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with me

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and then one day um

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a little dog entered our lives his name

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is simba

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he needed a home and you know the time

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had come for me to kind of jump in and

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and

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say yes and move forward

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and so that's what happened simba came

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home with us and

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life was never the same

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you know i remember looking out the

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window with this little puppy we were

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sitting side by side

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and i just i could feel you know in my

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whole body i could feel this whole new

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dimension to myself that i had never

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experienced before it was honestly like

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this like my heart a part of my heart

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just you know became unlocked and opened

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up for me to explore

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and i think simba really primed me for

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everything that was about to happen and

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and that was about to come

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how beautiful you know i had a very

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different childhood i always had dogs in

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the house we had four schnauzers and we

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had a pitbull and

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you know they were my family

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so it's real it's really interesting how

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we

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how we learn these things and what we

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come to

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so

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so then when you fell in love with simba

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what happened after that how did you get

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involved with animal communication

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yeah i mean really what happened was you

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know in my world where i was paying

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attention to global health and public

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health and thinking about you know

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improving people's health and their

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quality of life learning about animal

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communication consciousness just kind of

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expanded that scope exponentially you

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know it opened up a whole new layer of

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understanding for me in how we're all

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connected how we're all interdependent

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and you know with my background in

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research i just dove right in and

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learned everything i could

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i started realizing how interconnected

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humans and animals are how

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interdependent we are and really how

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much we

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can learn from each other how much we

568
00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:21,360
rely on each other

569
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,720
so that's where my journey led me and i

570
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:25,200
started thinking about the impact of

571
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,720
human activity not just on human health

572
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,640
but also for all life on on the earth

573
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,320
and thinking about how did that happen

574
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why did we get there how did we get

575
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,640
there and really like what needs to

576
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,799
change now in this transformation this

577
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,400
this disruptive period that we're going

578
00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,320
through right now what kind of

579
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,039
transformation needs to take place not

580
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,880
just in terms of laws and policies but

581
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:48,640
in terms of our ways of thinking in

582
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,840
terms of our perspectives in terms of

583
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:54,240
our consciousness and the ways that we

584
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,400
you know look at life and look at our

585
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,360
impact on each other

586
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,960
and that's really why i was interested

587
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:02,559
in starting this podcast so that it can

588
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,720
be a space where we can

589
00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:06,720
talk about all of these things and and

590
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,960
peel the layers and really dig into

591
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,440
these conversations and and better

592
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,280
understand all of these concepts so

593
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,400
those are my motivations but barbara

594
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,159
tell me like

595
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,679
what are your reasons and motivations

596
00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:22,400
for getting started with this podcast

597
00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:25,039
well i've worked on my own for so many

598
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,159
years as an animal communicator

599
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:29,520
because coming from a scientific medical

600
00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:32,480
background

601
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,360
academic background a lot of the people

602
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:38,880
that i associated with

603
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:41,360
and still even so a lot of the people

604
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,600
in these fields even those that work on

605
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,720
a daily basis with animals

606
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,520
think that

607
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,400
animal communication is hocus pocus it's

608
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,919
not real they just didn't believe it and

609
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,720
for a long time

610
00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:57,520
i didn't talk about it much i just was

611
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,720
afraid of being ostracized you know

612
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um

613
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,360
but now

614
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:06,000
i i i want to be with like-minded people

615
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:08,080
i want to help others know that they're

616
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,840
not alone when they have these deep

617
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,760
connections with animals and that

618
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,400
there's really some

619
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,360
substance to it

620
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,679
the way ivanka and i met was she was

621
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:23,120
working with a professor who's studying

622
00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:25,200
animal communication which is astounding

623
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:28,320
to me and fabulous

624
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,280
and i feel that this this professor and

625
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,320
her crew are going to give validity to

626
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,400
this whole

627
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,840
this whole thing of animal communication

628
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,760
which is pretty extraordinary

629
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600
and i want to let people know that that

630
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,880
there are others that are open to these

631
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,679
things and and create community and hear

632
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,080
from people who have been

633
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:52,720
working with animals and many and and

634
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,200
nature and the earth in many different

635
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,559
capacities for a long time

636
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,400
so that we can educate people about

637
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:02,559
what's possible

638
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,240
and that brings me to the title of our

639
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:08,559
podcast voice animals and us

640
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,279
voices of a new paradigm

641
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:14,080
because this is truly a new way of

642
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:16,559
thinking and believing about animals

643
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,600
about ourselves about nature about the

644
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,559
earth

645
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,000
and what's possible and what's already

646
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:25,840
happening

647
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,440
so i believe that the planet is now in a

648
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,679
crisis situation you know that everybody

649
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,240
knows what i'm talking about

650
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:36,799
and i also believe that the only thing

651
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,360
that will save life as we know it

652
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,600
is a shift in consciousness

653
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:44,159
and i've learned over many years that

654
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,360
the animals want to work with us to make

655
00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:47,840
this shift

656
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,279
make this transformation but we must

657
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,640
work together

658
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:55,600
and the animals are so open and willing

659
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,279
to working with us on this

660
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,880
and the start

661
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:04,240
is to respect all beings as wise

662
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,400
sentient conscious and loving

663
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,720
so that's why i'm that's why i'm so

664
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,679
excited about this podcast i think we

665
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,520
can

666
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:14,960
bring this information to a lot of

667
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:17,039
people in a very sweet and um and

668
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,120
non-judgmental way

669
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,559
is there anything you want to add

670
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,559
atlantica

671
00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:24,320
sure yeah barbara i just wanted to add

672
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,159
that when i look around and i have

673
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,480
conversations with people and i just

674
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:30,320
observe what's going on around me i feel

675
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,480
like there's this way of thinking that's

676
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,720
really deeply rooted in our human psyche

677
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:38,320
which really places us

678
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,799
humans at the top of this um chain at

679
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,360
the top of this hierarchy of spiritual

680
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:45,200
evolvement or intelligence or intellect

681
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:47,600
and we really

682
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,400
see ourselves as being the front runners

683
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,240
and

684
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,600
humans are really good at going into

685
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,640
different environments going into

686
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,480
different

687
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,799
different situations and finding

688
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,240
solutions to problems of course we do

689
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,080
the research and we try to understand

690
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,799
the problem but

691
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,559
you know we've spent many many years

692
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,640
going in and taking action and doing

693
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:08,000
things that we felt were right but what

694
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,520
if there's a better way to do it you

695
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,320
know what if there's a way that we can

696
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,400
actually collaborate and

697
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,360
listen to what it is that the planet

698
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
needs

699
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,520
what it is that the other living beings

700
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,440
we share this earth with

701
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,080
actually need from us

702
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,600
and not just go in assuming that we have

703
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,000
all the answers because to be honest we

704
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:31,600
don't we we know like you said

705
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,760
we are in a crisis situation and

706
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,080
we need to do a lot of things very

707
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,400
differently in order to create a better

708
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,840
future for so i really hope that

709
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,320
through the conversations we have in

710
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,480
this podcast we can explore those topics

711
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,000
for ourselves and our listeners can also

712
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,960
contemplate some of those things along

713
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,799
with us as we start to ask questions and

714
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,880
explore these things that maybe have not

715
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,559
really been talked about before

716
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,279
so barbara can you tell people what they

717
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,720
might expect to hear on our podcast

718
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,799
sure

719
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,360
we want to expose

720
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,960
people to a way of looking at the world

721
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,600
with new eyes

722
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:11,120
and seeing the true unity of all life

723
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,760
how we are all intimately connected and

724
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:16,320
give people a sense of the deep love and

725
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,000
wisdoms the animals want to want to

726
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,159
share with us

727
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,080
at the soul level which is a lot of

728
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:25,120
where i work especially when i'm writing

729
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,279
these books about about the elephants

730
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:30,559
and whales and other species

731
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:32,480
i'm just constantly in awe

732
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,799
at the

733
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,480
level of their wisdom

734
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,760
their insight

735
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480
and how

736
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,159
like you said ivantica how

737
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,120
unconditionally loving they really are

738
00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:45,120
they

739
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:47,039
you know they they've been in on this

740
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,200
journey with us for a long time and they

741
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,480
know what humans are doing to the earth

742
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,039
and yet

743
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,520
they still love us they still support us

744
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:57,760
and they want to be with us as long as

745
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,320
they're treated fairly

746
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,520
so on this podcast we want to give you

747
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,799
some practical ideas about how you as an

748
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,039
individual

749
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:09,360
can take some kind of action on behalf

750
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,559
of the animals on the planet

751
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,200
and

752
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,480
we're going to have interviews with many

753
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,799
different people

754
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,120
really fabulous people

755
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:22,080
who work with animals in nature in a

756
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:24,559
variety of ways and have a whole lot of

757
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,440
experience and

758
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:29,600
beautiful insights and perspectives to

759
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,679
share with us

760
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,480
some of the topics you might hear about

761
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:36,720
on our podcast might include death and

762
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,919
transitioning and how animals view these

763
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,720
topics

764
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:43,840
soul contracts and soul connections

765
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,679
indigenous wisdom and ways of knowing

766
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,320
and ways that animals and people can

767
00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:50,559
live together and learn from one another

768
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,399
and we'll also be sharing some tips and

769
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:54,960
some ways that you can communicate on

770
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:57,039
your own and connect more deeply with

771
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,480
animals and nature

772
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:01,480
so if you go over to

773
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480
www.animalsonspodcast.com

774
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,840
there's a subscribe section there and if

775
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,320
you put in your email address then we'll

776
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,559
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777
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,799
updates and let you know when new

778
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,360
episodes get released you can also

779
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:16,399
follow us on instagram facebook and

780
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,200
twitter

781
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:21,520
under the handle animals and us podcast

782
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,880
and there we'll be sharing things more

783
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,520
frequently

784
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,919
we'll be giving sneak peeks of who's

785
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,240
going to be on our podcast and sharing

786
00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:32,320
some little audio snippets there so

787
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,240
definitely check that out and follow us

788
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,480
there and if you're interested in seeing

789
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,760
more about barbara's work be sure to go

790
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,559
over to her website at

791
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,880
www.barbashore.com

792
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,039
that's s-h-o-r

793
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,279
and there you'll see all these beautiful

794
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:49,120
pictures and you'll read all about her

795
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:51,200
history and all the amazing work that

796
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,679
she's done in the past

797
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,559
thank you monica and thank you all of

798
00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:58,960
you for joining us we are really excited

799
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:01,840
to be sharing this with you

800
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,919
and we hope you enjoy the episodes we

801
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,919
have in store for you

802
00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:08,399
we have some wonderful people lined up

803
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:11,039
for our interviews and our intention

804
00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:13,200
really is to expand this conversation

805
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,880
beyond uh those that we're having you

806
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,799
know one-on-one with people barbara and

807
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,039
i are always doing that and we really

808
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:21,200
wanted to take this opportunity to share

809
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,279
these conversations with all of you and

810
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,600
even though it's a podcast and you're

811
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:28,000
hearing from us one way we would also

812
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,399
love to hear from you so if something

813
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440
resonates with you or you have a story

814
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:33,279
to share

815
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,200
or you know someone who's doing

816
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,640
something that you feel is worth sharing

817
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,240
please tell us

818
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,960
and this is really meant to be a

819
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,159
community of like-minded like-hearted

820
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,720
people

821
00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:46,720
and so we welcome you into that

822
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,960
community thank you so much for being

823
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,720
here and be sure to subscribe to our

824
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,360
podcast and leave a review if you

825
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,360
enjoyed this episode and before we go

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00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,360
i'm going to pass it over to barbara to

827
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,720
lead us into a short blessing for the

828
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,600
animals

829
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,559
we'd like to end this podcast by taking

830
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,279
just a moment to be quiet

831
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:09,919
and we give thanks and blessings to

832
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,679
these amazing animals that we share our

833
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:14,320
lives with

834
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:16,799
they give us so much and ask for so

835
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,880
little in return

836
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:21,440
we hope that you can keep the animals

837
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,720
and all living beings in your heart and

838
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360
in your mind

839
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,440
as you go about your day

840
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,590
thank you so much for being here with us

841
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,919
today

842
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:35,600
[Music]

843
00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:41,869
hmm

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[Music]

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