Episode 1
Introducing Ourselves and Why We Created This Podcast, with Barbara & Avantika, your Podcast Hosts
In this first episode, we invite you to get to know us as we embark on an amazing journey into the inner life of animals and nature. Both of us, Avantika and Barbara, are extremely passionate about this topic and we are more than excited to introduce you to the world we care so much about: the world of animals, nature and our beloved Mother Earth.
We will talk about our own personal backgrounds and how we came to know one another and then enter into the creation of this podcast. And we will let you know what's ahead: our future guests, topics we will discuss, and what you might learn from joining us on this podcast.
Our greatest hope is that we will become a community of like-hearted, like-minded souls and together we can change the way human beings perceive all living beings. We are extremely excited to have you join us on this incredible journey. Thank you for your attention, your love and your curiosity.
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hi there and welcome
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you're listening to animals and us
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voices of a new paradigm
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my name is ivantika and i'm a researcher
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exploring animal consciousness
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environmental sustainability and
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planetary health
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i want to help bring animal perspectives
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to the table and transform our
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relationship with the natural world and
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i'm barbara i'm an animal communicator
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and retired veterinarian
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my true passion is exploring the hearts
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and souls of animals
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and helping people
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come to a much deeper understanding of
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who the animals truly are at their core
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this podcast is for anyone who loves
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animals and nature and has an interest
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in their own personal and spiritual
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development will bring you powerful
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conversations with fascinating people
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about animal and nature sentience
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consciousness and communication
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thank you so much for joining us on this
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journey of love
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respect
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understanding
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and care
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for the fellow beings who share our
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beautiful mother earth with us
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hello and welcome to animals and us
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voices of a new paradigm this is episode
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number one
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my name is ivantika
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and i'm barbara
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welcome to our show we're happy to have
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you with us yes we truly are so excited
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to have you here today if you've
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stumbled upon our show we hope that
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you're someone who feels a strong
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connection to animals and the
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environment and to nature
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maybe you've always felt very connected
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or maybe something new that you're
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developing and exploring
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perhaps you're someone who works closely
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with animals in some capacity or you're
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someone who just really cares about them
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and has a really deep bond with them
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well wherever you come from and however
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you feel about animals
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we want to welcome you
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and we hope that you'll walk away with
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some food for thought
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maybe with your awareness slightly
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expanded or maybe with just some new
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interests and intriguing ideas that you
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can think about and apply in your own
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life
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barbara and i and many others out there
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really believe that animals have the
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capacity to think to feel
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to have consciousness and to even
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communicate with us and i'm not just
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talking about communicating through body
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language or through sounds that they
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make or through other obvious ways of
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communicating that we all know about
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i'm talking here about
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a very soul-to-soul connection that can
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happen between animals and humans
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through which we can actually
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communicate and exchange information
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so we'll talk more about that later in
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this episode and we'll definitely get
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really deep into that in later episodes
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but what's really important to stress
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here
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is the fact that they are conscious
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beings
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that they have thoughts
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they have emotions they have
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intelligence and when we are able to tap
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into all of that information and
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understand it
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we
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can be absolutely amazed by what we can
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learn about them and from them and so on
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that note i would love to properly
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introduce you to my co-host dr barbara
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uh barbara is a retired veterinarian who
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has worked with animals in many
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different capacities and i really mean
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that she has had so many different roles
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and interesting jobs in the past she's
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traveled a lot and she really has a
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wealth of information
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about animals and she really relates to
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them emotionally
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mentally psychologically and spiritually
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and in fact about 30 years ago she
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realized that she had the incredible
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ability to even communicate with them
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exchange thoughts with them and learn
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from them
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so barbara can you tell us how all this
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happened maybe you can walk us through
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your journey a little bit
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sure thanks avantika
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well like many of us i've always loved
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animals and i graduated with a biology
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degree from university of colorado
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and from there
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i did behavior research or ethology
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which is the study of behavior and
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and wildlife
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i did behavior research with wolves and
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coyotes in indiana of all places
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i spent about a year there
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learning about these animals and falling
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in love with them
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and after that i became a dog trainer
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for a few years
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and that was fascinating too
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but it led me to vet school
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and i became a veterinarian
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i knew that there was more that i wanted
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to do with animals than
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be a trainer or study them so i went to
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that school
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in vet school my passion for wildlife
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continued
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and i did some really interesting things
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during my time in school
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where i took care of raptors or birds of
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prey
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i volunteered with the colorado division
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of wildlife i worked at the denver zoo
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for several years
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and also worked with dogs cats horses
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and birds and everything else
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wow it sounds like you did so much
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during your time in vet school barbara
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and so where did you go after that where
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did life take you after you finished bed
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school
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after i graduated from vet school which
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was colorado state university
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i went into private practice and i
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worked in a few
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private practices which was great
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but then i was accepted into a residency
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program at the university of california
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davis
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and it was quite a wonderful prestigious
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program
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headed by dr murray fowler who was
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considered the father of zoo medicine at
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that time
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and i was the sole resident
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in a large ward where we treated many
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kinds of
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animals the program was called
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residency and not in non-domestic animal
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medicine
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and we treated all kinds of animals from
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from
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birds to snakes to rabbits
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and then we treated larger animals and
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zoo animals we treated we were the
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veterinarians for the sacramento zoo and
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mickey grove zoo in california
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and we treated many animals that had
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been injured wildlife
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as well as domestic
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companion animals
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and it was quite a huge
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huge learning experience
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from there i went to
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the california department of fish and
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game now called department of fish and
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wildlife
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where i did a deer project
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where i had a big truck and i would
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drive the mountain roads of northern
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california
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looking for roadkill deer these are deer
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that had been hit in the road
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and it was a research project to
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determine the condition of the deer
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herds
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you can look at the fat on different
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tissues and determine what kind of
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condition those animals
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were in when they died
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after a couple years of doing this it
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was springtime
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and in the springtime the deer of course
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had their little babies
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and i would be driving the roads and
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find a mother deer with her two babies
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by her side in the road killed in the
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road and
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i just broke into tears
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what i realized many years later is that
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these deer
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spiritually anyway emotionally were my
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teachers
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and they were helping me wake up to my
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own sensitivity my own gentleness
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for so many years going through
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veterinary school and then the residency
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and working with wildlife i had shut my
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emotional self down i had to be this
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tough little
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macho character
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to do what i had to do
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and it was suppressing a really
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important sweet part of myself that i
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wasn't even aware of
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and so
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after that
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things changed for me and it opened me
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up to
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my own emotional healing to my spiritual
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evolution to a whole new world
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and after i came back from
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this residency i spent a year in africa
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working with wildlife in africa and i
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did a
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study with cape buffalo i did a study
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with
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african wild dogs or they're also called
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cape hunting dogs or painted wolves
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and that truly was the best year of my
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life it was just magical
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but i wanted to be kind of normal again
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so i came back to colorado and went into
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a veterinary practice and i worked there
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for a while
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until i decided i had to leave
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so i left
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it's so interesting that you describe
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coming back and
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and kind of what having this desire to
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do something a bit normal that's that's
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interesting so can you tell us a little
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bit more about that like that process of
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coming back into veterinary practice and
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knowing that it just didn't feel right
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for you you know what was
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what were your feelings and emotions at
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that time and help you know
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motivating you to
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leave that practice
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as i said the deer had helped me to find
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my
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sensitivity
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and when i was in veterinary practice
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i could feel the emotions of the animals
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and and the people and and it was taxing
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at times
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at the same time i realized there's so
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much more to the animals than i had been
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taught to believe
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so
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i wanted to find out what that was about
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i wanted to know about the root cause of
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disease
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what really
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makes animals tick what are they
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thinking what are they feeling what is
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underlying cause of some of these things
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that we consider diseases that may just
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be symptomatic of something much deeper
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and so i left veterinary practice and i
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went into holistic or integrative or
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functional now
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veterinary medicine learning about herbs
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and homeopathy and energy medicine and
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all that
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and during that time i went to a meeting
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in hawaii which was the american
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holistic veterinary medical association
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and that meeting really changed the
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trajectory of my life
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wow and i'm sure with your
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years and years of experience even
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before that conference this would have
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just um you know really enhanced your
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understanding of animals and i'm so
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curious to know what happened at that
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conference like how did
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that kind of catapult you into
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animal communication and where did life
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go after that point
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well
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i went to a workshop there
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and there was an animal communicator
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that spoke for about two hours and she
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did a couple
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demonstrations with a bird and a dog and
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i was just totally
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intrigued
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and i thought this is what i want to do
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with my life i want to talk to the
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animals
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and so i read books and i studied with a
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few teachers and all of that but what
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happened is that in those days about 30
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years ago
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people used to teach that animals
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communicated through images
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but that didn't work for me i i'm not
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someone who sees a lot
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so i thought it wasn't happening for me
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but i continued working
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and
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finally i realized that i had already
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been communicating with animals for
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years
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i had swum with dolphins
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and
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i i started talking to them
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telepathically but i didn't realize that
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that was animal communication i didn't
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know there was such a thing for me the
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dolphins were simply my spiritual
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teachers
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and i would sit down
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and write down what i heard it was kind
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of like automatic writing and that's how
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i
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communicated and so i realized that
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that's my way of communicating is
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through my writing
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later i learned how to verbalize what i
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was hearing as well
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and i started working with individuals
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and their companion animals
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helping them with behavior problems or
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health issues especially when their
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animals were dying or about to
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transition
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and i did quite a bit of speaking at
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different venues and i taught workshops
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and then you went on to write a book can
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you tell us more about that
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yes about a dozen years ago or so i
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wrote a book called soul of the wild
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intimate messages from the hearts and
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souls of elephants in wales
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and the elephants in wales became my
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true teachers
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so this book is
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information from those animals but it's
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more than that at least to me it's
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their spiritual teachings and they they
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really did teach me a lot
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but now i am updating that book a new
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version
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and instead of a book about elephants
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and whales i'm making a series of books
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the first will be elephants and then
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whales and and
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other species from there and this is
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material that i had in the first book
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but also
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new material that's come in that that
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i'm quite excited about
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i i can't i can't wait to read that
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barbara i um i read barbara's book soul
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of the wild earlier this year and it was
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so transformative for me because i read
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it and so much of it made sense to me i
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realized that growing up barbara like my
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understanding of elephants and whales
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and for that for that matter most
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animals and living beings was so limited
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and reading your book really made me
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realize that
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our way of understanding things is
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actually
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so limiting and we don't really
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even have a clue about the depth of
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wisdom that they have to share with us
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and the kinds of things that you talked
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about in there were you know things that
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i've gone on to share with other people
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i've read excerpts of your books to
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other people um so i'm i'm really
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excited in our later episodes we'll get
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into your book and
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dive deep into some of the messages that
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the whales and the elephants have for us
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barbara and i could talk for hours about
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what the animals have to share and
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that's really why we started this
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podcast
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right barbara like we can we can we have
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so much to share and so much to dive
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into we just can't wait to get into it
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with you guys we've been talking talking
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talking for well over a year maybe two
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and it's been really fun
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so what about you of antika
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how did you get into all of this
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yeah my journey has been um
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has been really interesting growing up
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i actually had very little exposure to
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animals and nature i lived in a i lived
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a very urban life so i spent most of my
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life in toronto in canada and i spent a
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few years in india when i was younger as
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well and in both places i've lived a
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very urban life
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very kind of far removed from animals
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and from the natural world and we
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actually had no animals in the family
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no family members relatives even friends
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family friends that had even companion
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animals at home so my exposure was
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really limited
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um
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and then
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about two to three years ago
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i randomly heard a podcast
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and this woman was being interviewed
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she explained how she could communicate
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with elephants and she could have
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conversations with elephants
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you know just hearing that story
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something in my mind really shifted
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because i realized well why why is that
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not possible you know that's what went
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through my mind elephants and and other
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animals have shared this planet with us
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um some of them have been around for
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even longer than human beings have been
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so
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if we think that humans have this level
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of consciousness and ability to
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communicate
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why couldn't the animals
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and if someone is telling me that they
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can actually exchange information with
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them then that requires some further
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investigation
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so that you know just hearing that kind
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of threw me into a rabbit hole the more
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i learned and the more that i read about
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it
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my
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awareness expanded
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exponentially that's how it felt and
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life really took a turn after that
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because i felt like i was never the same
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person again it was kind of like i was
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i'd gone past a point of no return so i
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was just suddenly seeing things very
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differently now
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and honestly most of all
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it really made me come alive because
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i all of a sudden had this feeling of
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wonder and fascination
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and and to be honest a lot of respect as
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well for the natural world and yeah that
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was that's a little bit about how i got
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started
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very interesting and
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it seems the elephants brought us
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together
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after all they really did
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but but what got you interested in
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animals in the first place if you came
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from such a background where animals
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weren't even part of your life
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experience
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yeah you know i was actually scared of
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dogs for most of my life um
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i had a traumatic experience once when i
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was a kid
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in india there was a wild pack of dogs
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that you know i was just in the wrong
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place at the wrong time i got chased by
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them and it was so frightening as a
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child and
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that kind of completely
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put me in this bubble and really made me
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fear
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um animals and fear dogs and then
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everything changed when i met my husband
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and he told me really early on when we
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were dating that
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i'm an avid animal lover and we are
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going to have multiple dogs one day and
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that's non-negotiable
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and i i was open to it i was like okay i
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have a long way to go because i have no
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understanding
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i'm scared i'm gonna need a lot of
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support getting there but he was patient
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with me
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and then one day um
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a little dog entered our lives his name
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is simba
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he needed a home and you know the time
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had come for me to kind of jump in and
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and
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say yes and move forward
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and so that's what happened simba came
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home with us and
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life was never the same
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you know i remember looking out the
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window with this little puppy we were
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sitting side by side
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and i just i could feel you know in my
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whole body i could feel this whole new
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dimension to myself that i had never
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experienced before it was honestly like
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this like my heart a part of my heart
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just you know became unlocked and opened
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up for me to explore
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and i think simba really primed me for
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everything that was about to happen and
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and that was about to come
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how beautiful you know i had a very
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different childhood i always had dogs in
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the house we had four schnauzers and we
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had a pitbull and
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you know they were my family
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so it's real it's really interesting how
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we
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how we learn these things and what we
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come to
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so
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so then when you fell in love with simba
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what happened after that how did you get
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involved with animal communication
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yeah i mean really what happened was you
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know in my world where i was paying
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attention to global health and public
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health and thinking about you know
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improving people's health and their
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quality of life learning about animal
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communication consciousness just kind of
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expanded that scope exponentially you
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know it opened up a whole new layer of
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understanding for me in how we're all
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connected how we're all interdependent
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and you know with my background in
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research i just dove right in and
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learned everything i could
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i started realizing how interconnected
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humans and animals are how
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interdependent we are and really how
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much we
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can learn from each other how much we
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rely on each other
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so that's where my journey led me and i
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started thinking about the impact of
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human activity not just on human health
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but also for all life on on the earth
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and thinking about how did that happen
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why did we get there how did we get
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there and really like what needs to
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change now in this transformation this
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this disruptive period that we're going
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through right now what kind of
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transformation needs to take place not
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just in terms of laws and policies but
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in terms of our ways of thinking in
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terms of our perspectives in terms of
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our consciousness and the ways that we
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you know look at life and look at our
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impact on each other
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and that's really why i was interested
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in starting this podcast so that it can
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be a space where we can
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talk about all of these things and and
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peel the layers and really dig into
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these conversations and and better
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understand all of these concepts so
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those are my motivations but barbara
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tell me like
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what are your reasons and motivations
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for getting started with this podcast
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well i've worked on my own for so many
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years as an animal communicator
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because coming from a scientific medical
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background
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academic background a lot of the people
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that i associated with
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and still even so a lot of the people
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in these fields even those that work on
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a daily basis with animals
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think that
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animal communication is hocus pocus it's
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not real they just didn't believe it and
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for a long time
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i didn't talk about it much i just was
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afraid of being ostracized you know
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um
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but now
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i i i want to be with like-minded people
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i want to help others know that they're
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not alone when they have these deep
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connections with animals and that
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there's really some
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substance to it
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the way ivanka and i met was she was
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working with a professor who's studying
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animal communication which is astounding
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to me and fabulous
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and i feel that this this professor and
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her crew are going to give validity to
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this whole
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this whole thing of animal communication
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which is pretty extraordinary
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and i want to let people know that that
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there are others that are open to these
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things and and create community and hear
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from people who have been
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working with animals and many and and
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nature and the earth in many different
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capacities for a long time
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so that we can educate people about
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what's possible
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and that brings me to the title of our
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podcast voice animals and us
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voices of a new paradigm
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because this is truly a new way of
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thinking and believing about animals
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about ourselves about nature about the
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earth
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and what's possible and what's already
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happening
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so i believe that the planet is now in a
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crisis situation you know that everybody
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knows what i'm talking about
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and i also believe that the only thing
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that will save life as we know it
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is a shift in consciousness
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and i've learned over many years that
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the animals want to work with us to make
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this shift
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make this transformation but we must
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work together
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and the animals are so open and willing
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to working with us on this
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and the start
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is to respect all beings as wise
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sentient conscious and loving
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so that's why i'm that's why i'm so
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excited about this podcast i think we
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can
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bring this information to a lot of
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people in a very sweet and um and
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non-judgmental way
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is there anything you want to add
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atlantica
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sure yeah barbara i just wanted to add
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that when i look around and i have
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conversations with people and i just
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observe what's going on around me i feel
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like there's this way of thinking that's
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really deeply rooted in our human psyche
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which really places us
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humans at the top of this um chain at
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the top of this hierarchy of spiritual
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evolvement or intelligence or intellect
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and we really
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see ourselves as being the front runners
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and
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humans are really good at going into
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different environments going into
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different
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different situations and finding
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solutions to problems of course we do
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the research and we try to understand
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the problem but
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you know we've spent many many years
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going in and taking action and doing
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things that we felt were right but what
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if there's a better way to do it you
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know what if there's a way that we can
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actually collaborate and
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listen to what it is that the planet
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needs
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what it is that the other living beings
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we share this earth with
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actually need from us
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and not just go in assuming that we have
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all the answers because to be honest we
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don't we we know like you said
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we are in a crisis situation and
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we need to do a lot of things very
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differently in order to create a better
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future for so i really hope that
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through the conversations we have in
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this podcast we can explore those topics
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for ourselves and our listeners can also
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contemplate some of those things along
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with us as we start to ask questions and
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explore these things that maybe have not
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really been talked about before
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so barbara can you tell people what they
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might expect to hear on our podcast
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sure
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we want to expose
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people to a way of looking at the world
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with new eyes
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and seeing the true unity of all life
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how we are all intimately connected and
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give people a sense of the deep love and
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wisdoms the animals want to want to
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share with us
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at the soul level which is a lot of
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where i work especially when i'm writing
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these books about about the elephants
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and whales and other species
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i'm just constantly in awe
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at the
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level of their wisdom
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their insight
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and how
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like you said ivantica how
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unconditionally loving they really are
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they
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you know they they've been in on this
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journey with us for a long time and they
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know what humans are doing to the earth
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and yet
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they still love us they still support us
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and they want to be with us as long as
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they're treated fairly
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so on this podcast we want to give you
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some practical ideas about how you as an
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individual
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can take some kind of action on behalf
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of the animals on the planet
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and
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we're going to have interviews with many
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different people
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really fabulous people
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who work with animals in nature in a
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variety of ways and have a whole lot of
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experience and
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beautiful insights and perspectives to
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share with us
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some of the topics you might hear about
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on our podcast might include death and
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transitioning and how animals view these
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topics
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soul contracts and soul connections
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indigenous wisdom and ways of knowing
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and ways that animals and people can
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live together and learn from one another
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and we'll also be sharing some tips and
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some ways that you can communicate on
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your own and connect more deeply with
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animals and nature
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so if you go over to
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00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480
www.animalsonspodcast.com
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00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,840
there's a subscribe section there and if
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you put in your email address then we'll
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00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,559
be able to send you notifications and
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00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,799
updates and let you know when new
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00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,360
episodes get released you can also
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follow us on instagram facebook and
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twitter
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00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:21,520
under the handle animals and us podcast
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and there we'll be sharing things more
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frequently
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we'll be giving sneak peeks of who's
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going to be on our podcast and sharing
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00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:32,320
some little audio snippets there so
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definitely check that out and follow us
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there and if you're interested in seeing
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more about barbara's work be sure to go
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over to her website at
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www.barbashore.com
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that's s-h-o-r
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and there you'll see all these beautiful
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pictures and you'll read all about her
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history and all the amazing work that
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she's done in the past
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thank you monica and thank you all of
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you for joining us we are really excited
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to be sharing this with you
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and we hope you enjoy the episodes we
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have in store for you
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we have some wonderful people lined up
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for our interviews and our intention
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really is to expand this conversation
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beyond uh those that we're having you
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know one-on-one with people barbara and
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i are always doing that and we really
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wanted to take this opportunity to share
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these conversations with all of you and
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even though it's a podcast and you're
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hearing from us one way we would also
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love to hear from you so if something
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resonates with you or you have a story
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to share
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or you know someone who's doing
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something that you feel is worth sharing
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please tell us
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and this is really meant to be a
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community of like-minded like-hearted
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people
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and so we welcome you into that
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community thank you so much for being
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here and be sure to subscribe to our
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podcast and leave a review if you
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enjoyed this episode and before we go
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i'm going to pass it over to barbara to
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lead us into a short blessing for the
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animals
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we'd like to end this podcast by taking
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just a moment to be quiet
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and we give thanks and blessings to
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these amazing animals that we share our
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lives with
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they give us so much and ask for so
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little in return
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we hope that you can keep the animals
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and all living beings in your heart and
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in your mind
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as you go about your day
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thank you so much for being here with us
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today
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hmm
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